World scale is unnatural unless user height equals avatar height

[Phil-Palmer]

Example: User's real-world height is 100cm, but they're using the default avatar (176cm). As a result, the world is displayed to them at 57% scale.
Personally I'd like the world to display at natural scale, and have my avatar scale to my real-world height. Then if I want to be taller, I can use the avatar scale setting.
[edit] The current behaviour also makes perfect sense though. Maybe providing a choice of the two would be good?

[JulianGro]

Not sure exactly what you mean or how the current behaviour is.
Personally I feel like the scale should be in relation to your avatars size. Even if you don't resize your avatar, if it is 16cm tall the world around you should appear huge.
The scale should depend on your avatars and your real-world height.

We do have a lot of settings though, so maybe it makes sense to have a setting for different behaviour.

There does seem to be something weird about the current system though. The hands on my own avatar appear absolutely tiny, which might be the issue you are talking about. Or maybe it is just the real-world height being set to 1m by standard.

[Phil-Palmer]

Thanks, it makes more sense to me now with your example.
The current behaviour is like you described: the world scale in the headset adapts to the size of the avatar (the world looks oversized if you choose an avatar smaller than yourself), which makes perfect sense.

What I would like is the option to scale the avatar instead, so that the world appears at exactly 100% scale. The simple solution would be a button next to the avatar scale slider (like the '1x' button) that scales the avatar by (userEyeHeight / avatarEyeHeight). So if I was wearing a mouse avatar, it would become a human-sized mouse.

[JulianGro]

Keep in mind that the Avatar App is generally outdated and needs an overhaul: #688

Not sure how a button like that would fit in there best. Maybe there could be a snap to your real-world size inside the slider? Kind of how SteamVR does the resolution scale setting (just with not as big of a snapping area I guess).

[Phil-Palmer]

How does #942 seem to you @JulianGro ?

[Phil-Palmer]

The current behaviour is like you described: the world scale in the headset adapts to the size of the avatar (the world looks oversized if you choose an avatar smaller than yourself)

@JulianGro It seems I was wrong about the current behaviour. If I choose an avatar taller than me, it squats to my eye level instead of standing straight. The workaround is to reduce my real-world height a little.
Presumably if I chose an avatar shorter than me, it would hang from my head or pull my viewpoint closer to the floor, depending on my recentre setting.

I'll see if I can add a fix into #928 so that the sensor-to-world scale takes into account the eye-height ratio between the user and the unscaled avatar.

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Hello! Is this still an issue?

[JulianGro]

I am not aware of a fix and stuff definitely looks weirdly scaled to me.