Rulelist features requested for OZ

[shw700]

OK, at the moment there are two features we'd like to be supported, and they are interconnected. Hopefully, neither issue should present much technical complexity:

1. Allow for duplicate rules
2. Allow for including other rule files. For example, we might want to have some sort of global whitelist or blacklist for system calls, and include these in the configurations for all individual applications. This will make it easy to configure rules for common components/libraries, and in the event that a new version of a critical system library invokes an unexpected syscall, it should automatically "fix" all existing applications that are linked to it.

Finally, I'll tag Dave on this one, but there might be some value in allowing us to load a custom list of constant definitions rather than relying on the prepackaged list...

[olabini]

Hi,

Duplicate rules in what way? How should disambiguation happen? Or should it only be allowed when the expansion is the same?

Including other rule files is already possible through the Golang API. The Prepare function takes a SeccompSettings struct which has an ExtraDefinitions field - you can put as many extra rule files as you want there.

You can use the same method to load custom constant definitions. Variable/macro definitions will override the predefined constants.

[shw700]

Why exactly would disambiguation be necessary? If the rules are absolutely identical, all subsequent invocations would be discarded.

For example, take "uname:1"
Say we include this particular rule in our-rules.seccomp. But our-rules.seccomp includes a rule file global-rules.seccomp, and global-rules.seccomp also contains this exact same entry. The first one should be parsed, and any following entries should be ignored.

For your suggested way of including rules, it would mean that we would have to pre-parse the rule files before passing them to gosecco. This seems to me to be a bit less elegant than allowing gosecco to pick up a line like ".include /some/file" and take care of the process inline.

Unrelated question: from skimming the source it seems that seccomp filters are installed in the order that the corresponding rules are written. Is this the correct behavior? Or should the list be reversed before passing it to the kernel?

[dma]

Hi Ola, I'll offer some missing context: what we are considering doing is taking a base collection of system calls and having that as an include file for whitelists. This base list would include calls like read, write, open, and other basics. We could try this if gosecco allows including policy rules in ExtraDefinitions (documentation says we can't -- only variables and macros, but haven't tried TBH) and not have the parser die on finding another rule for a previously seen syscall.

[olabini]

OK, I see. So if the rules are the same, obviously no disambiguation is needed - I thought you were asking for conflicting rules to be added.

When it comes to the order of how the filters are installed, it shouldn't matter what order they are installed, since each one cover its own syscall.

I don't remember why you can't add rules in ExtraDefinitions - I'll take a look at that.

[olabini]

When it comes to having "include" as a statement, the reason we didn't do that was to avoid complicating the grammer, but also to avoid having the parser be reentrant. We can definitely revisit that decision.

[shw700]

The reason I'm asking about rule order is not for correctness, but for performance purposes...

[shw700]

If for some reason you decide not to add an include statement, we will need the ability to pass rules as a string in order to implement this functionality on our end.

[olabini]

Well, rule order will be the same as the order of the rules in the policy file - is that not OK?

[shw700]

Right now we order our human-readable rules with the most likely encountered conditions first - which I think is the logical programmatic way to do so. This is the opposite of what will end up happening when the filters are installed, though...

[olabini]

No, as far as I can tell, the rules will be compiled and installed in the order they are encountered. A very simple test of compiling:
open: 1
futex: 1

Generates this code:
ld_abs 4
jeq_k 00 04 C000003E
ld_abs 0
jeq_k 01 00 2
jeq_k 00 01 CA
ret_k 7FFF0000
ret_k 0

[shw700]

Yes, I am not referring to compilation... rather to installation. Filters are evaluated by the kernel in reverse order of installation.

[olabini]

I'm a bit confused about this - gosecco doesn't explicitly support installation of more than one policy.

[shw700]

Ahh, so seccomp/SECCOMP_SET_MODE_FILTER is only called once with all the BPF?

[olabini]

Yep.

[shw700]

My mistake - now that I think about it I'm not sure why I would have thought otherwise.