Request - Copy encoder to push button macro

[RadekPilich]

One idea for macro that would be quite useful for most of the programing I do.

A macro, that takes the settings from an encoder and copies them to the button function of the given encoder.

Obviously, this is applicable only partially and mostly relevant to the CC mode in my case, although there are other modes (note, pbend....) that are available on both encoders and push buttons and the macro could function there as well, but I haven't really explored those modes nearly enough yet.

For CC, the macro would:

• switch the push button type to CC
• set push button mode to toggle and display to on
• copy the right column of parameters from the encoder - chan, num, low, high

Use cases:

• sometimes, I set the push button to toggle between two low and high values - either the same end of range values as encoder moves between or two specific values - i.e. two favorite modes of a multi-mode device. The end of range toggling would be the default result of the macro.
• sometimes, I set the push button to set the same controller as the encoder controls to a specific value - i.e. single central value of a bi-polar controller. In this case, I would have to manually change a couple of parameters - set low and high to 63 (or the actual middle value) and I would turn display off. This could potentially be a differentiated macro copy behavior for when the encoder display is in the +/- mode.
• sometimes, I set a a completely different CC and related parameters to the push button, yet copying the parameters from encoder would be much more comfortable starting point than setting everything manually from the initial state.

[lsim]

Thanks for the well written feature request. The use cases in particular are extremely helpful. I have been doing the same push button mode in some of my setups, so I can definitely relate.

One related feature I have neglected so far though is the min/max modes of the push button. They kind of cover similar territory, right? But choosing the neutral point of a bipolar control is a more common use case for me anyway (the min and max values are easy to find by just twisting furiously).

I will have a think about how to do this so we cover as many use cases as possible

[RadekPilich]

Yes, min/max are similar, but to me it's not using the full potential, I would rather have toggle with each push between between min - max (or some other values) then just always min or max. On the other hand, I also use an encoder for extending the range of feedback for a delay pedal, where I use just the push button solely for min value to reliably get back into safe territory with first push when the feedback gets out of hand.

I've even suggested the mid value to Mathias, but he rejected it, stating that 0-127 range mid value differs across devices and / or that there is no mid value for even count ranges. Fortunately, at least it can be done manually as described in the previous post. Unfortunately, it's not possible to do it for NRPNs, which is probably why I was asking for it.

[RadekPilich]

Btw. I tend to use +/- displays for unipolar controllers as well. It's just easier for me to imagine the position of the actual knob then with 0-127 range. Maybe it would be best to switch to 100 / 1000 range, I have to figure it out yet.

The worst thing about EC4 is the absence of init values. As a part of my mid value request, I was also asking for the +/- encoders to init at the center point rather then at min. It's annoying that it all inits at min. So that's why I use push button as a sort of init button for the encoder if I don't have other function to map there.