Summary
In Ask mode, ask_alyf.api.send_message intermittently returns an assistant message whose content includes the internal prompt scaffolding (a trailing instruction line and a phantom "User:" example query). This scaffolding is then persisted into the conversation's messages_json as the assistant message. Because it becomes part of the conversation history, on the next turn the model reads the phantom question as if the user had asked it and answers that instead of the user's real question — the conversation derails and does not recover within that conversation.
Environment
ask_alyf 15.0.1
- Frappe 15.113.1, ERPNext 15.x
- Reproduced via server-side
frappe.call("ask_alyf.api.send_message", message=..., mode="Ask", conversation=<id>, context={...}) and the assistant reply read back from Ask ALYF Conversation.messages_json.
What we observed
A short message like hallo produced this stored assistant content (note everything after the cost footer):
Hallo! 😊 Was kann ich für dich tun?
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*Kosten: Input ~0,001 EUR | Output < 0,001 EUR*
User: wie viele wohnungen haben wir?
Now answer the final user message using the conversation history as context.
- The line
User: wie viele wohnungen haben wir? was never entered by the user — it looks like a few-shot/example query from the prompt template.
Now answer the final user message using the conversation history as context. is clearly an internal prompt instruction.
- Both got stored as the assistant message
content in messages_json.
Resulting derailment (real transcript, same conversation)
| User said |
Assistant replied |
was soll das |
"Das war meine Antwort auf deine Frage „wie viele Wohnungen haben wir?" …" |
das habe ich gar nicht gefragt |
"Die Frage „wie viele Wohnungen haben wir?" kam aus dem Gesprächsverlauf …" |
du sollst meine Frage beantworten |
"Wir haben 294 Wohnungen im System." |
The model keeps answering the phantom apartment-count question because it is in the history.
Impact
- User questions are effectively ignored after the leak occurs; the assistant answers a hallucinated/example question.
- The pollution is persistent for the lifetime of the conversation (it lives in
messages_json and is re-fed every turn).
- Intermittent (≈1 in N short messages in our testing), which makes it easy to ship unnoticed.
Likely root cause
The prompt that wraps the latest user turn appears to append something like
User: {message}\n\nNow answer the final user message using the conversation history as context.
and the model continues/echoes that pattern (plus a few-shot example) into its output, which is then stored verbatim as the assistant message. In short: the assistant output is not strictly delimited from the prompt scaffolding, and/or the completion is not trimmed at the expected boundary before being persisted.
Entry point: ask_alyf/ask_alyf/api.py → send_message (around line 468) and the prompt-construction helper it calls.
Suggested fix
- Ensure the model's answer is strictly separated from prompt scaffolding (clear role separation / stop sequences), so trailing instructions and few-shot examples cannot be echoed into the completion.
- Before persisting to
messages_json, post-process the completion to cut anything from the scaffolding sentinel (e.g. a trailing \nUser: block or Now answer the final user message …).
- Add a regression test that asserts no stored assistant message contains the scaffolding string.
Workaround we deployed downstream
In our consumer we now strip any trailing block starting at Now answer the final user message (back to the preceding \nUser:) from both the returned answer and from the stored messages_json on every turn, which stops the derailment. This is obviously a band-aid for a prompt-side issue.
Happy to provide the full messages_json dump if useful.
Summary
In Ask mode,
ask_alyf.api.send_messageintermittently returns an assistant message whose content includes the internal prompt scaffolding (a trailing instruction line and a phantom "User:" example query). This scaffolding is then persisted into the conversation'smessages_jsonas the assistant message. Because it becomes part of the conversation history, on the next turn the model reads the phantom question as if the user had asked it and answers that instead of the user's real question — the conversation derails and does not recover within that conversation.Environment
ask_alyf15.0.1frappe.call("ask_alyf.api.send_message", message=..., mode="Ask", conversation=<id>, context={...})and the assistant reply read back fromAsk ALYF Conversation.messages_json.What we observed
A short message like
halloproduced this stored assistant content (note everything after the cost footer):User: wie viele wohnungen haben wir?was never entered by the user — it looks like a few-shot/example query from the prompt template.Now answer the final user message using the conversation history as context.is clearly an internal prompt instruction.contentinmessages_json.Resulting derailment (real transcript, same conversation)
was soll dasdas habe ich gar nicht gefragtdu sollst meine Frage beantwortenThe model keeps answering the phantom apartment-count question because it is in the history.
Impact
messages_jsonand is re-fed every turn).Likely root cause
The prompt that wraps the latest user turn appears to append something like
User: {message}\n\nNow answer the final user message using the conversation history as context.and the model continues/echoes that pattern (plus a few-shot example) into its output, which is then stored verbatim as the assistant message. In short: the assistant output is not strictly delimited from the prompt scaffolding, and/or the completion is not trimmed at the expected boundary before being persisted.
Entry point:
ask_alyf/ask_alyf/api.py→send_message(around line 468) and the prompt-construction helper it calls.Suggested fix
messages_json, post-process the completion to cut anything from the scaffolding sentinel (e.g. a trailing\nUser:block orNow answer the final user message …).Workaround we deployed downstream
In our consumer we now strip any trailing block starting at
Now answer the final user message(back to the preceding\nUser:) from both the returned answer and from the storedmessages_jsonon every turn, which stops the derailment. This is obviously a band-aid for a prompt-side issue.Happy to provide the full
messages_jsondump if useful.