Add cost / balance to grave creation

[EnderMelody]

i really like the idea of the mod, and the fact that it works with other grave mods when you have a grave makes this an extremely cool idea, however i would like to be able to add a cost to using the graves, specifically by having a specified block/blocks in range that would get destroyed in order for the grave to work. this would encourage fancy grave building and not make it an easy way to die without losing anything.

[StoneLabs]

So similar to a beacon in theory but consuming the blocks on construction?
I was originally planning on having it consume the soul torch you use to create it but tbh couldn't be arsed haha

Sure sounds cool. Please feel free to suggest a few options for thematically fitting blocks that might be needed / consumed.

[EnderMelody]

i was thinking more an area around the sign it checks for the blocks rather than a predefined structure so as to allow each player to decorate their graves different, but yes that is the general idea.

[StoneLabs]

Ah I see, I like that even more. Do you have any thoughts on a good block/price per grave? Ideally, something that is not too design-forcing.

• Perhaps some X amount of soul lanterns?
• Or possibly X blocks of soul anything, "soul sand/soil, soul torch/lantern"

This will also most certainly be toggleable with a gamerule.

[EnderMelody]

i think having something shiny like a ore block would fit well, but might be rather expensive. having an or statement so the player can choose the sacrificial block would also be helpful. perhaps something not too hard to get but not easily farmed such as a pristine lantern would work well.
having soul lanterns would work really well if you could put them out in some way to signify the graves usage too. perhaps simply converting them to a normal lantern would work well enough for this.
you can also use the grave chest as a sort of burial sacrifice where you can put items for the activation to use, this would allow you to use a more wide variety of items. perhaps ,if possible, allow an nbt data check on an item frame to allow sacrificial items to be put in item frames instead. i think this would also be a really cool feature.
you could also use a full respawn anchor for the sacrifice and simple reduce the respawns (a configurable amount?) when the grave is used. imo a full respawn anchor worth would be minimal necessary to balance the free gear recovery of the grave, but again, being able to config things is always good.
also, the cost should probably be configurable on the server side.

feel free to use any or none of these, just some ideas i threw out. i definitely think at least a little configuration is good for servers though.

[StoneLabs]

Thoughts on right clicking with a respawn anchor that is then consumed? Too expensive or okay? @EnderMelody

[StoneLabs]

Ok ive come up with 2 more balanced ideas.

1. Levels (configurable amount ofc but id set the default to maybe 20? 30?)
2. Totem of undying (this is very expensive but maybe good since graves are kinda OP)

Other ideas still welcome.

I'd really appreciate opinions on this so imma tag some people, sry about that @JustusJG @Yuutsuna @Luke322

[EnderMelody]

Thoughts on right clicking with a respawn anchor that is then consumed? Too expensive or okay? @EnderMelody

sorry hadnt checked git in a while.
not sure exactly what you mean by right clicking, but a respawn anchor would be a good multi use item to use for this.
Levels are a bit weird as theres no way to store them in vanilla. also having to die with the levels is finicky as you spend them so you dont always have levels, as well as there being no way to quickly re-up the payment (gain levels) which would limit the rate you can use the respawns. it could be a good way to make the grave have a natural "cooldown" period which could be interesting to have.
Totems sound like a pretty good thing to use for this as you can stock up but farming them isnt super easy. also the whole link for the theme of coming back to life fits well.

[StoneLabs]

not sure exactly what you mean by right clicking
I meant as in when u create the grave. When u right click the sign to create it, not when u die.

Thanks for your input!

[Luke322]

I think Ender Pearls could be a good item for this, they are reasonably hard to get but easy to farm in the late game. Additionally we already know that they are used for teleportation so it makes thematic sense. The main problem I see with this is peaceful mode, although they are still obtainable it is much harder (only from loot, trading and bartering).

[EnderMelody]

not sure exactly what you mean by right clicking
I meant as in when u create the grave. When u right click the sign to create it, not when u die.

I was thinking more of you place and fuel the anchor and when you die it will use a number of charges from the anchor similar to how it functions in the nether.

[StoneLabs]

I think Ender Pearls could be a good item for this, ...
I like this, but maybe one enderpearl per grave is a bit cheap.

If we stick with the right click method, than we can only really use the hand item. I guess we could require them to be in a chest closeby? But its less intuitive ig.

[Yuutsuna]

How about having a config file where we could:

• Enable/disable the cost for creating a grave
• Specify an item that will be consumed (I think the totem of undying as a default is good but maybe too much of an end game item)
• Add an amount of level/xp that is gonna be consumed (with a default of 0)

Currently, we put the text on the sign and use a soul torch to enable the grave by underlining it. We could imagine that, to enable the grave with a cost, the player would right-click the sign with the configured item, which would make the text on the sign bold. Making the sign bold will consume the item. That way, when the text is both underlined and bold, we know the grave is enabled. If the feature is disabled, the soul torch would make the text bold and underlined at the same time without requiring a cost.

Also having a config file would allow us to add other features like the Configrable Area Serach for storage

[StoneLabs]

I dont hate that idea but maybe with gamerules instead. I prefer to keep things vanilla like as much as possible.