Inter-DOOM maxSky mode

[Meerschweinmann]

Hello again :)

Hope you are fine.

I was experimenting with the extended Ultra-Widerpix skies and played around with the LOOKDIRMIN and MAX values in "r_local.h" and ended up with this:

#define LOOKDIRMIN 215 // [crispy] -110, actually
#define LOOKDIRMAX 145
#define LOOKDIRS (LOOKDIRMIN+1+LOOKDIRMAX) // [crispy] lookdir range: -110..0..90

Inter-DOOM can show this way 597 pixels of a 600 pixels high sky. These missing 3 pixels are the "safety zone" before the sky repeats and the LOOKDIR numbers are based both on 5 to look nicer.

The angle up is like it is in Eternity Engine or Woof (vertical aiming mode). The angle down is like it is in Odamex.

Extending mouselook down is no problem, because all DOOM ports have their point zero where the sky begins and draw down from that point.
Extending up is a problem, because then you see the bottom of the repeating sky on top.
With SKYDEFS like it is available in Woof and Odamex you can shift the sky up.
Inter-DOOM has a fixed point zero and no SKYDEFS. But i have found now a solution that works in Inter-DOOM too.
A really simple one.

Cutting everything from the higher sky-texture above Inter-DOOMs "point zero" and pasting it below the texture, so it sits on top of the normal sky in Inter-DOOM.

And here you can see it in action when you use the above mentioned LOOKDIR values:

Inter-DOOM-maxSky.zip

Is it possible to make a Ultra-Widerpix mode that skies of that size are usable without changing the source code, please? :)

Woof for example has done it coupled with the "direct vertical aiming". Using vertical aiming in Woof sets the mouselook angle higher for example.
Or detecting something in the WAD file activates that special mouselook angles when mouselook is on or a option allows using extended mouselook angles.

And hey, when i could only remember who it was with her tall sky assets that brought up the idea to extend the vanilla skies width too......
If that person would be the developer of a DOOM source port it would be nice if exact that sourceport would support such extra sizes ;)

Greetings

[Meerschweinmann]

Here is an even more extended WAD file that works with LOOKDIRMAX 215 too. So Doomguy can look up till the neck breaks.

DOOM_extended_skies_v1e.zip

[JNechaevsky]

Oh no, not that game again. 😦 Err, I mean, hello there! I'm fine, more alive than in previous 10 years. Heart like engine, legs like springs. After giving up that bad habit at the beginning of the year, I've moved on to athletics and mostly left programming, shifting my priorities to something more real. Meanwhile, there's a small secret project underway, but it's not supposed to be widespreaded.

So, regarding to this issue... Honestly, no idea what to do, since there is no SKYDEFS support or some kind of own micro-standard. I can't imagine any other ways, rather than increasing look angles, if it's safe at all.

[Meerschweinmann]

First of all, nice to hear that you are fine and nothing bad happened, like it was as there were some very silent weeks some time ago. And nice that you have found a sporty activity. That is good for health and keeps the head free. I drive around with my mountain-bike to keep fit and keep the weight down :)

Will have a look what Ms International does with the secret project.

About the issue, SKYDEFS is not needed. I have organised the texture a way that it works with Inter-DOOM in that height. I use the peculiarity that the sky wants to repeat when looking to far up.

Only thing to keep in mind is, that when extending the mouselook angle upwards, you can see the original sky textures or so called 1024x240 pixel tall skies repeating.

With the extended textures i have that does not happen. So this bigger mouseangle should be an option.
Combining it with "vertical aiming" as "extended view" option would be nice. Resulting in "Autoaim/direct/both/extended view"

Woof for example extends the mouslook angle too when using "direct vertical aiming". But Woof has no repeating skies. So for Inter it should be an separate selectable option for vertical aiming.

[Meerschweinmann]

By the way, i have extended again all skies to 1024x680 px now. You can download them at Doomworld and see what your tall skies have started.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148537