Should i use lze if i use lazy.nvim?

[daUnknownCoder]

im currently using lazy.nvim, and im a user not a plugin guy, so should i use this to load plugins after installing them with lazy? or is it supposed to be used by rocks or pckr?

[BirdeeHub]

lazy.nvim handles lazy loading, and you can use either nix or lazy.nvim for installing plugins but you need a lazy.nvim spec for it.

lze or lz.n are for when you arent using lazy.nvim

As long as the plugins are installed in the normal nvim packpath, like via nixCats, or paq.nvim or rocks, lze or lz.n can be used for lazy loading.

But lazy takes over like, everything. So, use nixCats and lazy, or just use nixCats and lze

EDIT: Just realized which repo this is.

You can use paq.nvim or rocks as well, anything that installs plugins on the normal packpath in pack/something/{start,opt}/* will work with lze

lze is extremely flexible. It works by default with ANY plugin manager that allows you to use vim.cmd.packadd("name") to load stuff

And if you override the default load function, it can work with many more.

But using lazy.nvim + lze doesnt make sense. Why have 2 things to manage lazy loading when 1 does the job.

[BirdeeHub]

yes mason just installs programs, such as linters lsps and debuggers. Those same programs are offered on the nix store and they can be added to the path for just nvim via nixCats, and then you use lspconfig on its own to load them from the path

flakes are top level files in repos packaged by nix that import the inputs and export the packages

Nix is a package manager and a programming language.

nixos is an os that is entirely configured in the nix language by the nix package manager using a module system so that people can set options like services.xserver.enable = true;

nixCats does not require nixos although it does offer a module to import in nixos if desired.

This would be what a config using just nixCats and lze looks like (with a pckr fallback defined when not using nix at all) that directory would be its own repo

[daUnknownCoder]

I didn't understand most of the shit but still thank you very much, I would love to move to nix as I start to understand the nitty gritty of nix language... And I break my config very very often so often that Im mostly left with a broken grub

Not to mention, a few days ago, I was tricked installing a binary running sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root > /dev/null by a discord stranger friend but Idk how my /home survived the fall, after a reboot Tho, my /home was wiped too - godly that I backed up some of my /home stuff and ~/.gnupg or my github commits and passwords stored in pass-cli would be dead meat

[BirdeeHub]

can confirm nix does make having your french removed less painful

[daUnknownCoder]

The learning curve nullifies the pros Tho, but my arch isn't ready to say goodbye yet (pacman just works)

[BirdeeHub]

anyway, figured id finish the discussion by saying that those who arent gonna use nix should use paq.nvim in my opinion. Its very simple, does everything you will need to complement lze for downloading plugins. And it will be an easy transition from that to whatever plugin manager nvim builds in if they add one.